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Post by sgtstonez on Aug 9, 2007 12:05:18 GMT -5
Eglen NT has been breached. Cades down, seven Zeds inside. I am infected and out of AP there. I guess I will need a revive at Holland the next day.
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Post by teammeat on Aug 9, 2007 12:36:09 GMT -5
At the moment there are about 14 dead bodies outside the Burrel Way Police Station and a zombie spy of the RRF was found inside.. but soon taken care of
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Post by teammeat on Aug 15, 2007 10:19:32 GMT -5
I was just wondering whether there is a plan to retake the molebank hospitals at any time soon?
Detective A Clarke co-founder Team Meat
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Post by sgtstonez on Aug 20, 2007 9:17:59 GMT -5
Hy teammeat,
if we formed an alliance we could retake the hospitals soon. we have confirmed intel on large Zed groups attacking from the West. The GSG9 is helping us out where they can, but at the moment our RP is flooded with Zeds. Some of them are Zeds for live and only trying to lessen our APs, some brainrotters everybody is allowed to kill there and of course the usual suspects: the real persons in need!
I think your group, the GSG9 and our Angels will be enough to retake the Hospitals at any point soon. Tell me how we can get in touch to coordinate this. I know from the GSG9 that they have 3 spare gennies. If we could get hold of some fuel it would be all done.. We may need some toolboxes, though.
cheers and see u around.
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Post by teammeat on Aug 20, 2007 10:16:03 GMT -5
I have fuel, however thanks to over barricading of Burrell and my shortage of AP i couldnt gain access and was killed meerely minutes ago. I am currently laying face down outside Tidball Library. Perhas a co-ordinated attack could be devised via your own forums? However you have to take into account we are still only low level characters, but we are still willing to help.
Detective A Clarke co-founder Team Meat
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Post by krommos on Aug 20, 2007 23:48:54 GMT -5
Extinction and several other large zombie groups have amassed on the border of West Becktown, at The Flowar NT which they have JUST cracked open. It is right on the line of Molebank's boundary and Molebank appears to be their next target. Tonight or tomorrow, I'm betting. Incidentally, Flowar just happens to aligned directly with Burrel Way PD, four blocks down. My friends, this horde is too large to stop with the minimal manpower we have in cooperative effort. They strike as one, at the same time, and maximize their AP usage. DO NOT provide them with a reward for their AP expenditure. I suggest falling back into the suburb below Molebank in true guerrilla warfare spirit. It will take less AP's to fix the damage they cause than to revive each and every one of us. Be water. I have surveyed Reganbank today, and it is quiet and without zed activity of any import. There are also numerous buildings well barricaded. Follow the Dimon Museum and factory route for access into some quick momentary security. If I may be of any aide, let me know. Sincerely,
- Krommos
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Post by sgtstonez on Aug 21, 2007 10:02:55 GMT -5
Hm thats a tough decision. I think we may should drawback and do like you proposed Krommos. Retaking the Hospitals for now is not helping at all. On the other hand since it takes toolboxes to repair ruined buildings, it will make this all a lot more AP consuming, since you have to find one first! Teammeat, is your manpower enough to repel a large hoarde of Zeds? If yes, we could make one of the buildings our safehouse and try to defend it.. Otherwise I would follow Krommos considerations.
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Post by teammeat on Aug 21, 2007 13:21:29 GMT -5
Ha.....we don't exactly have the man power for a full scale battle with the zeds, however, the problem with falling back is that no matter how far we eventually go the hoardes are still gonna keep coming. There are a large number of survivors currently in Burrell willing to stay and fight and if their will-power and abilities could be acquired we may actually stand a chance. There are also other groups active within Molebank who could be approached to form alliances with. With two or three active safe houses being defended with members (of said safe houses) being capable of searching for ammo, FAK's, revives and other useful items we may just push the zombies back.
Detective A Clarke co-founder Team Meat
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Post by krommos on Aug 21, 2007 14:33:03 GMT -5
The problem one encounters isn't a matter of numerical superiority, although that is an issue, but of collaborative efforts happening at the same time. Extinction and LUE metagame and have 'time windows' wherein everyone logs on and attacks at the same time. 400 survivors in a building, who log on without coinciding their actions to be online at the same time, are not any match for 50 zeds that simultaneously move, attack, and ransack as a singular entity. And the shambling groups we'll encounter from Extinction and LUE are usually fielded hordes of 100+ well led zeds.
Overall, the 'game' is won or lost not on holding territory, nor on killing zombies since they aren't actually killed (death is simply HP regeneration), but on effective use and conservation of AP's. And this resource management is, as well, a tool for depriving the zeds of both a physical reward for their time spent and a psychological victory of killing survivors and transforming them into zombs. Guerrilla warfare in its truest form.
- Krommos of SABRE
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Post by teammeat on Aug 21, 2007 15:42:16 GMT -5
You make a good point about conservation of ap on our part and depriving a reward for ap spent on the zombies part, but inevitably what good comes from clinging to something we are granted in return for a half hour wait.
If co-ordination could be achieved on a mass scale matching that of the approaching zombie hoardes, set for a time when survivors are able to strike hard and fast we could win this on sheer brawn as aposed to behaving like a chess piece.
You must understand I am not being critical, I just believe we have another course of action available to the residents of Molebank, other than retreat.
Detective A Clarke co-founder Team Meat
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Post by sgtstonez on Aug 22, 2007 2:00:01 GMT -5
I surely would love to aggree with you teammeat, but I have been into so many sieges, including Dowdney Mall defending RRF and other mall sieges, that I know how it works. Krommos already said: they are striking as an entity. Within 14 minutes a mall was ransacked! four complete corners of a mall fell. And those survivors where coordinating. But as long as you dont REALLY belong to one group and be ready to defend at all times its not gonna to happen that you survive. We can, though, stay and defend. What would happen to us? We were dead and had to be revived, nothing really of concern to be honest. But if you are going to be a real human in this city of malton, then you need to run!
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Post by krommos on Aug 22, 2007 2:32:52 GMT -5
I just pulled some recon on the zed activity in the north of Molebank, and they seem to be quietly massing in West Becktown as the ferals following along and a few strike-force teams have made incursions into the upper area of Molebank and ransacked and ruined a handful of buildings. I'm guessing the big push will come soon enough. Extinction's goal is to destroy the NT buildings and then hold them (Salt the Land Policy), in an ever-widening grip. Incidentally, Reganbank hasn't any NT buildings and is therefore somewhat off of their 'radar'. I've loaded up on as many syringes as I could find with what AP I had left, which was only three, and returned to where I'm waiting just south of Molebank in the Farthing Library. It is accessible via free-running in four AP's from Cape Towers, and is EHB without power.
And I greatly appreciate different points of view, and hopefully will be wrong in this Extinction operation's outcome.
However...To me, all action within Malton is equitable and distilled to AP's expended and psychological benefits gained. It might only take 30 minutes for another survivor to come and revive somebody killed, but how many AP's were expended getting to the syringe, finding the syringe, getting to the survivor to be revived, and then reviving them? Along with an XP bonus given to the zed or zeds who got to eat your brains. I'd much rather spend 15 AP's exfiltrating the hot zone, wait for the zeds to expend their AP's removing barricades and ransacking buildings, having them disgruntled and peeved that they didn't get to kill anyone (especially me). And then move on. Soon enough, within 24 hours most often, the largess of the force occupying the buildings will end from boredom and many zeds will move on to find something 'active' to do. The reason most other suburbs haven't experienced quick revival after an Extinction assault is that the survivors decided to stay and die to the last man - and are then zombies running around in the red zones or far outside of their community looking for revives. A mass of AP's wasted and time mispent for bravado and idealism without pragmatism. Honorable, in the way that valorous action is honorable, but not the most strategically sound practices for reducing zed victories. If there even is such a thing. And if there is not, then I'd much rather not give them the satisfaction of killing me. Never the less, if one's choice is to stay and fight valiantly to the end, if I still have a syringe to pop into your bum when you come shambling along, I'll gladly do so.
And really, all of this almost makes me want to say, "whats the point"? If only those fekking zombies would stay down when i fill them full of lead!
- Krommos
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Post by teammeat on Aug 22, 2007 8:06:52 GMT -5
Without sounding like the brash teenager I am, I have to say, I hate you for being right, I could easily go against the good advice and instruction given, be head strong and do something because I have a gut feeling and get nothing in return.. but perhaps now isn't the time to behave like a teenager... now is the time to behave like a man and take all the useful advice you've given and act upon it.
Detective A Clarke co-founder Team Meat
p.s. without sounding selfish would it be possible to call shotgun on one of those revives?
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Post by teammeat on Aug 22, 2007 10:59:32 GMT -5
Again, without sounding selfish, if it were anyway possible to revive me, I'm currently the lone zombie outside Farthing Library.. If you can revive me could you please drop me an e-mail so we can arrange a time.....
Thanks Detective A Clarke currently disgruntled zombie....
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Post by krommos on Aug 22, 2007 11:23:54 GMT -5
Heading that way right now, Teameat.
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